Star: OK, so Matter and Form, the album, that sounds a lot different from your previous albums, using different instruments like more the analogue synths and stuff like that?
Ronan Harris of VNV Nation: Oh no, I meant the first two albums… well not the first two albums, the first three albums were done with a lot of the same kind of equipment. It was Future Perfect that I kind of steered away and did it with a PC because I wanted to prove that I can do an album with just a computer. Anyway, I know what you mean. You finish the question and…
Star: Well no, I was just, wondering what's the reaction to it so far that you’ve been on tour.
VNV Nation: Really amazing actually. The vast, vast majority of the, I mean there's always going to be people who are never happy is a band changes its sound or if it comes up with any new album. We had people at, Future Perfect didn’t like it when it came out. And there were people who loved it. There will always be people who want you to make the same album forever, and you can’t do that because it's boring. I mean that was the death of a lot of bands when they did decide to do things like that. I personally don’t make music just to cater for a specific taste, I’ll always make music that makes me happy and makes me feel good. I wanted to mix a lot of different styles on this, I mean like the things like Entropy, I wanted the more harder edge style of industrial. With Chrome as well, I wanted a sort of new movements and I like sort of more of the harder edge electro slash or kind of experimental type count. Every song had its own little forte but I just, I don’t know, the album kind of wrote itself and then I was, you know, filled with vibes and I just thought I want something that's got a really organic, warm vibe. I want something that, for one, sounds really high quality, I want to use a co-producer that will assist us with that. And the main thing being that I can say to somebody, this is how I want something to sound and this is how I want it to feel and… these were limits on my production skills on Future Perfect I wanted with this album, I said OK this is the soundscape I’m going for, these are all the little vibes and all the sounds on this, I’m going to be experimenting with a lot of old synthesizers again and having fun with that. And it, I don’t know, I’ve never been prouder of an album. The whole writing process with that album was something I really enjoyed, but the fans, in the majority sense, in the vast majority sense, love it. There's always something on there that they like or something that gets them an intro into the album, for some people it’s not that difficult, to some people it’s really easy, they just love it right from the word go. I never expect it to be easy, but they get the same kind of variety we’ve always had, you know, there's a ballad, there's an orchestral track, there's a pump and dance floor track.
So when I look back at shows at people in Europe, I mean the perception was really strange because they felt the album right away. People here, in fact the album’s been out for a month, and people here were taking their time with the album, I mean getting to know the songs. But they stand there and they tend to watch them more than get really into it as they would have in Europe. In Europe, from the word go they learned the lyrics for every single song. I mean they were singing Perpetual at the end of every single show. And we finished on one set with Perpetual and we walked of stage, and about a quarter way through the tour a whole hardcore gang of fans were singing the song nonstop and it was like…