Lainie: And a hidden track on that, M.V.P. album, I saw another “Boriqua Anthem” on there, what is that?
Clivilles: It’s a fault, I didn’t get to finish that one actually, that one I did in Miami and I didn’t get to finish the record, it’s kind of incomplete on the record but…
Lainie: I saw that on the tracklisting and I think I had a heart attack.
Clivilles: It was like a hip-hop “Boriqua Anthem,” I just wanted to put the horns in, we had a good idea to blend it and we would follow through Rock Ya Body, and we were just playing with it. I wish I would have finished it but, it’s kind of like eighty percent finished. We were thinking of something, you know, just to take it to the next level and I think there’s something there, because hip-hop hasn’t really gone into that kind of full-throttle edgy land sound. You know, they try, you know, they try, you hear it but…
Lainie: Now there’s a big influence with Indian rhythms.
Clivilles: Yes.
Lainie: The cymbal line especially, I think he has a song, Indian Food, that just came out.
Clivilles: I heard it.
Lainie: And a lot of them are playing around with the Middle Eastern thing, do you think that…?
Clivilles: Oh, well, they’ve been playing around with the Middle Eastern thing for like three years already, that’s why I didn’t want to touch that. I did the Latin tribal with the Caribbean reggae was the blend, that’s why Rock Your Body because it was more, it’s harder, like the tribal stuff is a little harder than the Indian stuff. And I want to make it a little more uptempo. I want a little dance, you know.
Lainie: Do you think it’s easier for a rap or hip-hop to, you know, use softer themes when they’re talking about softer themes so use Latin and tribal because people can move their bodies to it, where as like, maybe in like Eminem they go straight for the rock and roll edge now, when he’s talking about beating his wife. But when talking about a more hardcore subject there seems to be a metal edge or a rock edge to hip-hop.
Clivilles: Yes.
Lainie: Now it just seems that you won’t have as many choices as we did when it was 1986 all the way up, you know, through the beginning of the 90s. Well, how do you think we’re going to get back to being a more global music, you know…?
Clivilles: That depends on the producers and the performers, and that depends on the dedication that people want to do. I mean, the industry didn’t destroy dance music, the producers and the creators did, the people that support it. I mean, if you don’t write songs and you don’t take, you don’t push the envelope and you’d have a lot of DJs and DJ / producers that are very comfortable, were making a living, and don’t want to take that extra step. The only way that’s going to happen is if people, if somebody takes it really serious.
Lainie: Do you think a lot of people have substituted song writing for remixing and…?
Clivilles: Absolutely, I mean most DJs don’t write- they haven't taken the time out to write. They say they write, they take the credit like they write, but they really don’t write. I mean, I know a lot of DJ/producers and I know that they don’t write, and I know they don’t do what they say they do, and I’m probably going to get in trouble for saying that but I’m not going to say, I’m going to keep it right there. But that it pretty much what destroyed the dance music scene…
Lainie: Well, they get the another pop artist like a Britney Spears and Madonna get, gets to be exposed to the dance market and, you know, there are several remixes of a song, you know, they don’t know what DJ or what, you know, remixer would get the credit, but it will always be Madonna or a Britney that gets the credit for being a popular club song. So when you see it in the chart, it’s not that so-and-so sold it, it’s that, that name of the pop artist.
Clivilles: Yes, but you need to make just as much quality music. The same way Britney takes her craft seriously, there’s got to be a few people out there that take dance music seriously to break it. I mean, to tell you the truth, Rock Ya Body’s a dance song, you know, it might be a midtempo dance song but it is a dance song. I mean you could play that instrumental in any club, speed it up or whatever and people are going to dance to it.
