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RS: So where do you find music that you use in the show?
Michael Perlmutter: Everywhere, all over the world. We send mass eMails, we've made a lot of phone calls, we've met a lot of people like yourself. We also just get a lot of CDs anyhow and we listen to them, so we're not actually focused on one specific brand, so we'll go out to all the independent labels, whether it be rock or pop or ambience or whatever the case is, and we'll get their music because you never know what gem we're going to find on a CD, whether it be a known artist or not. With Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, for example, we used a song called Shade of Blue, and it's just an album track, so we listen to all the different songs and we find a really great song for the scene.

RS: Let me ask you this, I think you said this last year or it was said on the panel you were on, that music supervisors are the new A&R.
Michael Perlmutter: Yes.

RS: Did you say that?
Michael Perlmutter: You know, somebody told me that, somebody mentioned that to me. I don't say that as an arrogant thing at all, I believe that we're in a position to help break new bands that either aren't getting signed or aren't selling a lot of records, and that's because we can pop a song on a show and if a couple of million people are watching us and it's a hot piece in placement where you actually hear the song and you react to it, you're going to sell… so hopefully those fans, as I was just saying, will go out and look for the tunes, and they will go hopefully buy it and then they'll spread the word, and word of mouth is really important in our industry. And then maybe yes, at some point fifty thousand records will be sold by some artist that has been on our show or songs from the show, so in that way we could be the new A&R. I mean, record labels aren't signing acts like they used to and they may never again like they did fifteen to twenty years ago. So in some way, yes, I think that music supervisors are a new source for A&R or a new source of A&R for the fans out there, or for the record buying public.

RS: Cool. I noticed that this new soundtrack is less dance-oriented than past soundtracks.
Michael Perlmutter: Sure

RS: How does this reflect the show's direction or character development?
Michael Perlmutter: Well that's a pretty heavy question. That's a good question, it's a really good question. Our audience is pretty diverse and I know over the years the music has become a little less dance-oriented, mainly because the stories aren't necessarily taking place in Babylon, they're taking place outside, they're taking place in apartments or on the streets or in homes and cafés or in other situations, so we've had to adapt a little bit to that. So I think that's one of the reasons why it's a little less dance-oriented. Let me answer this in a couple of parts. The first year, at least for the soundtrack, what we wanted to do is we wanted a really great combination of dance and emotional-type songs that were important. The second year we thought you know what, let's make a dance mix CD, because a lot of the audience loves the dance music. We had a lot of dance music that year, we thought we'd try that. The third year we decided to have the dance music CD but also throw in some songs that were really songs, not dance songs, but songs that were really significant in various scenes in the year, and we think that went over really well. And Tommy Boy did a really beautiful job at putting that together. And in the first year we wanted to go strictly on songs that were important in certain scenes. I think there might be a couple of songs that weren't as significant, but we really loved a couple of the dance tunes or a couple of tracks that we'd use or something like that. But by and large the songs were, on the fourth soundtrack, pretty important to all the scenes and significant in the scenes. So I think it only reflects in the character drama, I think you're absolutely right, I think it reflects in more of relationships amongst the characters than just a party mode. There still is a lot of partying that goes on and still a lot of fun that goes on, but more and more so there are more serious issues that are happening, there are more serious storylines that are being explored. And when that happens you really have to get a little bit more focused on the music and the kind of songs and the lyrical content to make sure that it works with everything. So I think you're right, I think it has reflected the direction and the character direction, I think you're absolutely right.

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